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		<title>By: Roland Smart</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo, 

I think this is always an issue that people have to think through when they work with a software as service. How do we know that Flickr will be around in a year and/or what they&#039;ll charge? In the end, we don&#039;t. Will it be easy to pull down your images? Maybe, but it&#039;s a calculated risk. Of course, one of the factors is price and at our new pricing levels we feel we&#039;ll have long term sustainable business growth. In terms of exporting content, refer to some of my earlier comments in which I explain why the content in Sprout is platform dependent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo, </p>
<p>I think this is always an issue that people have to think through when they work with a software as service. How do we know that Flickr will be around in a year and/or what they&#8217;ll charge? In the end, we don&#8217;t. Will it be easy to pull down your images? Maybe, but it&#8217;s a calculated risk. Of course, one of the factors is price and at our new pricing levels we feel we&#8217;ll have long term sustainable business growth. In terms of exporting content, refer to some of my earlier comments in which I explain why the content in Sprout is platform dependent.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2635</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, why would anyone pay $3000 and put any work into creating media with this tool, if it exists only as long as sprout does? What if the price is $10,000 next year? You either pay or lose it all.

Does the Enterprise edition allow for exporting or are the Enterprise customers taking the same gamble?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, why would anyone pay $3000 and put any work into creating media with this tool, if it exists only as long as sprout does? What if the price is $10,000 next year? You either pay or lose it all.</p>
<p>Does the Enterprise edition allow for exporting or are the Enterprise customers taking the same gamble?</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Smart</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2630</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

Our solution is available to private users and we have many who have taken up our offer of a $2,999 account. The fact is that the costs associated with providing this service necessitate moving towards enterprise clients. That said, we do believe that the cost of getting the Adobe product and coming up to speed with it would actually cost more due to the steep learning curve. Plus, we&#039;ve already got relationships with partners that allows us to plug into their systems (YouTube, for example). 

We&#039;re sorry that you&#039;re leaving and hope you&#039;ll consider working with Sprout again for larger scale projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Our solution is available to private users and we have many who have taken up our offer of a $2,999 account. The fact is that the costs associated with providing this service necessitate moving towards enterprise clients. That said, we do believe that the cost of getting the Adobe product and coming up to speed with it would actually cost more due to the steep learning curve. Plus, we&#8217;ve already got relationships with partners that allows us to plug into their systems (YouTube, for example). </p>
<p>We&#8217;re sorry that you&#8217;re leaving and hope you&#8217;ll consider working with Sprout again for larger scale projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Wild</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2621</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i learned my lesson here. A design solution that has basiclly been built by a community of beta users and their feedback, is now to good to be available for private persons. 
Im really not trying to be rude, but even if i had that kind of money, i would rather invest it into some books about Flex programming and come up with my own solution than helping Sprout go &quot;enterprise&quot;.
Mark my words, no company will keep investing this kind of money into a tool as limited as sproutbuilder, without your base of small-buisness and private users this is just a matter of time. do the math =/ 
nice to know you.
Steven Wild
*trolls off to buy adobe flex builder&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i learned my lesson here. A design solution that has basiclly been built by a community of beta users and their feedback, is now to good to be available for private persons.<br />
Im really not trying to be rude, but even if i had that kind of money, i would rather invest it into some books about Flex programming and come up with my own solution than helping Sprout go &#8220;enterprise&#8221;.<br />
Mark my words, no company will keep investing this kind of money into a tool as limited as sproutbuilder, without your base of small-buisness and private users this is just a matter of time. do the math =/<br />
nice to know you.<br />
Steven Wild<br />
*trolls off to buy adobe flex builder&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Smart</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2618</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimmy,

Again we&#039;re very sorry that your pages will be affected by the sunsetting of this product. We believe that those users who have had success with Sprout will be good candidates for the enterprise level product. Perhaps you can find ways to get more value from the platform in order to justify the subscription price. Considering how powerful Sprout Builder is, the price of other software packages online, and the bandwidth costs of serving Sprouts we believe this is an affordable offering. Also, keep in mind that the $2,999 is targeted towards existing customers, not new customers. Our enterprise customers typically come in at a significantly higher level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimmy,</p>
<p>Again we&#8217;re very sorry that your pages will be affected by the sunsetting of this product. We believe that those users who have had success with Sprout will be good candidates for the enterprise level product. Perhaps you can find ways to get more value from the platform in order to justify the subscription price. Considering how powerful Sprout Builder is, the price of other software packages online, and the bandwidth costs of serving Sprouts we believe this is an affordable offering. Also, keep in mind that the $2,999 is targeted towards existing customers, not new customers. Our enterprise customers typically come in at a significantly higher level.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Smart</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2617</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

We&#039;re trying to respond to those comments where we can provide useful information. There are plenty of places to vent frustration, but we hope this post will be a place people can find relevant information. For example, many complaints have come in about exporting sprouts and we posted to explain why this is not actually possible with our technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>We&#8217;re trying to respond to those comments where we can provide useful information. There are plenty of places to vent frustration, but we hope this post will be a place people can find relevant information. For example, many complaints have come in about exporting sprouts and we posted to explain why this is not actually possible with our technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Smart</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2616</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, if you choose to upgrade your account you&#039;ll be using essentially the same too. Note that this offer is ONLY good for existing customers as a thank you for using our tool in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, if you choose to upgrade your account you&#8217;ll be using essentially the same too. Note that this offer is ONLY good for existing customers as a thank you for using our tool in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Smart</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2615</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

We would have given folks the possibility of export if it was possible. However, due to the technology that underlies that Sprout platform the widgets that it creates cannot live without being attached to the platform itself. We realize this is a major inconvenience which is why existing Sprouts will run for three months before shutting down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>We would have given folks the possibility of export if it was possible. However, due to the technology that underlies that Sprout platform the widgets that it creates cannot live without being attached to the platform itself. We realize this is a major inconvenience which is why existing Sprouts will run for three months before shutting down.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2614</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This transition, and the transition under way at Clearspring, make for an interesting comparison:
http://changingway.org/2010/02/16/widgets-and-the-webs-amputation-ward/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This transition, and the transition under way at Clearspring, make for an interesting comparison:<br />
<a href="http://changingway.org/2010/02/16/widgets-and-the-webs-amputation-ward/" rel="nofollow">http://changingway.org/2010/02/16/widgets-and-the-webs-amputation-ward/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kimmy</title>
		<link>http://sproutinc.com/2010/02/sprout-builder-service-transition/comment-page-1/#comment-2613</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m completely dissapointed right now. I&#039;m 17 years old and I run the major sites HisGoldenEyes.com, Mockingjay.net, mortalinstruments.net, which are part of the network PageToPremiere.com. These sites get over 50,000 hits every day. I paid you a good amount every month. I didn&#039;t mind paying it since it was an AMAZING service. If there is any way I can continue using it at this price...it would be amazing. I can&#039;t afford the new price. I&#039;ve used it since right when the BETA started. HisGoldenEyes.com uses Sprout as a MAJOR component in the site, with three sprouts on the front page above the fold. PageToPremiere.com is made ENTIRELY FROM SPROUT. Please, please, don&#039;t do this. You must realize that this is unfair. I understood when I had to start paying for Sprout, after it had been free. You warned me. This time, it&#039;s entirely out of the blue and I&#039;m stuck with my 10&#039;s of thousands of people that use my Sprouts having blank spaces on the pages. If you transition a free service into a paid one, we think it&#039;s here to stay. We plan our business models, our sites after it, and don&#039;t expect that to change. Now you just cut off a major resource that we can&#039;t replace, and it&#039;s going to cause many people to lose a big source of income, or even have to close their business. We relied on you. If there is any way I can advertise, or anything else, I&#039;d love to, in exchange for my account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m completely dissapointed right now. I&#8217;m 17 years old and I run the major sites HisGoldenEyes.com, Mockingjay.net, mortalinstruments.net, which are part of the network PageToPremiere.com. These sites get over 50,000 hits every day. I paid you a good amount every month. I didn&#8217;t mind paying it since it was an AMAZING service. If there is any way I can continue using it at this price&#8230;it would be amazing. I can&#8217;t afford the new price. I&#8217;ve used it since right when the BETA started. HisGoldenEyes.com uses Sprout as a MAJOR component in the site, with three sprouts on the front page above the fold. PageToPremiere.com is made ENTIRELY FROM SPROUT. Please, please, don&#8217;t do this. You must realize that this is unfair. I understood when I had to start paying for Sprout, after it had been free. You warned me. This time, it&#8217;s entirely out of the blue and I&#8217;m stuck with my 10&#8242;s of thousands of people that use my Sprouts having blank spaces on the pages. If you transition a free service into a paid one, we think it&#8217;s here to stay. We plan our business models, our sites after it, and don&#8217;t expect that to change. Now you just cut off a major resource that we can&#8217;t replace, and it&#8217;s going to cause many people to lose a big source of income, or even have to close their business. We relied on you. If there is any way I can advertise, or anything else, I&#8217;d love to, in exchange for my account.</p>
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